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Re: Badger Cull Protest

Post  whitestarling on Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:21 pm

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Post  whitestarling on Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:11 am

Badger cull a shambles according to Conservation charity - September 2013.
Following the revelation in the Western Morning News that shooters involved in the badger cull in Somerset are failing to kill anything like the numbers of badgers required to fulfil their quotas, Mark Jones, veterinarian and Executive Director of Humane Society International/UK gave the following reaction:

"It comes as no surprise that the badger cull is failing in its efforts to devastate badger populations in the pilot areas. This unjustified policy has been a shambles from the outset. It deeply saddens me that even one badger has to suffer and die for the sake of political expediency. The government should have rejected this policy from the start, and instead focused on more progressive, humane, and science-based solutions to the problem of TB in cattle. Now it must abandon this travesty that has already cost farmers and the taxpayer dear and caused deep divisions within our communities."

DEFRA breach on information
DEFRA is also in breach of a legally binding decision of the Information Commissioner, who ordered DEFRA to release information to HSI UK on exactly how ‘humaneness' was to be measured and assessed during the pilot culls. The legally binding deadlines for DEFRA to release the information, or appeal the decision, have both passed, but as yet no appeal has been lodged and HSI UK has received no further information.

Cycnical tactics from DEFRA
Jones stated: "DEFRA has used every cynical tactic in the book to prevent disclosure of the methods and criteria it will use to assess humaneness in the pilot culls. We can only assume it knows that independent scrutiny would find the methodology to be full of holes in exactly the same way that eminent scientists have declared the cull to be nothing more than a ‘costly distraction'.

The vast majority of shooting appears to be taking place without any monitoring whatsoever, only a fraction of badger carcasses are being collected for examination, the extreme suffering of wounded badgers who will die slowly underground is unmeasurable and nobody outside of DEFRA's internal team has been allowed to examine or question its methods. With this level of unjustified animal suffering, DEFRA must not be allowed to stick two fingers up at transparency and get away with it."

DEFRA denies13/09/2013 08:26:25 DEFRA denies
A DEFRA spokeswoman has claimed that the HSI is incorrect in stating that the deadline for the information has passed. DEFRA believes that the deadline is the 23rd September, and that this will be met.

The spokeswoman, when questioned about the quota, stated that they will not be providing a running commentary on the numbers involved, and that they will provide details once the cull has finished.
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Re: Badger Cull Protest

Post  littlewid on Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:16 pm

Thanks for all that WS. This truely is getting out of hand and a lot of information is very cloak and dagger. What has been going on is appauling and their has been no TV coverage which is incredibly bad, there was coverage prior to the cull but now its quite secret.
Some if not I reckon most of the badgers killed have not been killed humanely and some shot through the head which has caused a lot of wounding but not instant death and they were not supposed to be using head shots. There was also a report on FB that one of the females may have been pregnant but I havent heard anymore about that, she was warm and had a swollen belly so too soon for it to have been gas in the abdomen, she was being examined by the RSPCA but no further information on her so far. There have been lots of Badgers found who have not died where they have been shot so again that indicates suffering.
There are lots of SAB. Groups out their disrupting the culls and they are doing a grand job in all weathers and they deserve supporting. They are posting regular updates on FB and if anyone can support them in anyway by either replying to their posts, thanking them for what they are doing or add to their fuel fund then thats great.
Another way to help is to keep writing to your MP and ask them to stop this barbaric cull which they have scientific evidence to say it doesnt work.
There are also lots of reports that the Police are supporting DEFRA and not really being impartial like they should be, its actually all getting quite nasty out there but the SABS are doing a terrific job for our beautiful Badgers and they are so far preventing the mass cull that was expected but god knows where its all going to end.

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Post  Laikipia on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:56 am

Thanks for the update WS. It is a total mess and a complete farce, they have got it so wrong. I am with you Littlewid, and supporting various sab groups, Pete and I are also going to the protest in Manchester at the Tory Party Conference - should be interesting. I am hoping it will be peaceful and get the point across.

I won that T shirt in the auction Littlewid, it says something like 'Badgers have friends and their friends have votes' I am really hoping it arrives before the protest on Sunday 29th.

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Post  littlewid on Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:53 pm

Thats a brilliant statement Lai and im really pleased you won the T shirt, it will come in very handy for the protest in Manchester. If I didn't live so far away I would be there like a shot. I am sure it will be peaceful, so far all the sab groups have. Stuckto lawful goings on in the evenings, they are doing a fab job. From one of the sites I ordered, pens, a mug, keyring, bag for work and a fleece, just waiting for it all to arrive and then it will all be used at work.

Last night the sabs were really busy, protecting our Badgers and then going at 6am to try and stop some fox cubbing that was being planned. It got quite heated on FB as there were a few people that were pro the cubbing, one girl tried to be nasty to me but I politely replied back and then she got banned, so there are some nasty people watching the sab sites but they are not gaining any friends, they are wasting their time.

Well done you and Pete for going to Manchester, I will be there with you both in spirit.

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Post  Laikipia on Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:00 pm

  Littlewid, we are meeting up with others from the Wirral and Cheshire Badger Group. I'll let you know how we get on! No sign of my T shirt but I have another one with a pic of a badger on the front so that will do Very Happy 

I agree it is getting very heated but the government should admit their error, work toward a vaccination programme and join the real world, for once.

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Post  Laikipia on Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:22 am

Just a couple from yesterday whilst we were all getting together. Dominic Dyer spoke before we marched, he was good shame about some of the others!






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Post  whitestarling on Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:51 pm

http://i73.servimg.c  Well done Lai looks like there was quite a few there. Not sure what the NHS placard's doing there though ?

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Post  Laikipia on Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:06 am

We were tagged on to a massive TUC march WS, it started with the NHS and then just about everyone and his wife joined in with different organisations and unions. Our section was stop the cull but we had all sorts with us !

Dominic reckoned we had about 500 badgerists.

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Post  littlewid on Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:05 pm

Brilliant to see so many there Lai and I love the banner, that wasnt going to be missed was it. I still think 500 was a pretty good turn out and you never know, with you all being there you may have inspired others to support stop the cull.
Thanks for sharing your pictures and again thank you to you and Pete for going.

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Post  princesspurplehippy on Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:44 am

I went to a badger cull protest in David Cameron's constituency of Witney, there was about 200 of us and it was a nice peaceful and pleasant protest. We also made the news

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Post  Laikipia on Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:53 am

Well done for going PPH and glad it was a peaceful protest. We heard Dominic Dyer speak at the protest march at the Cons Party conference he was very good.

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Post  whitestarling on Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:36 am

http://i73.servimg.c For going PPH, good that is was peaceful, and good that you got on the news . The more publicity the better.

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Post  whitestarling on Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:58 am


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/uk-politics-video/10367227/Owen-Paterson-accuses-badgers-of-moving-goalposts.html
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Post  littlewid on Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:06 pm

  well done for going to the protest PPH and im glad it was a peaceful one. The Badgers need all the support they can get and you and Lai have really supported them by attending the protests Like a Star @ heaven 

Thats a great pic WS and he is certainly confirming what a twit he is  

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Post  Laikipia on Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:43 am

I had an email about volunteering in a community based vaccination programme but the link isn't working just now but it came from Save Me.  I will find out more ......

http://www.save-me.org.uk/index.html

Okay, found it now

http://www.bacvi.co.uk/vaccinator.html

I'm going to ask about it at our next badger meeting in November.

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Post  littlewid on Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:17 pm

That will be amazing to be part of a vaccination program Lai. I am not sure if there is anything like that near me, I need to find out more.

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Post  princesspurplehippy on Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:54 am

Really annoyed that the even though the members of the National Trust (I am a member) voted for vaccination on NT land, the chairman used his proxy votes to vote for a cull and this means that they will be culling on their land.

I will be cancelling my membership and not visit any of their places again, I'm disappointed that an organisation set up to protect the British countryside and subsidised by the government have made this decision

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Post  Laikipia on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:45 am

I agree with you totally PPH although I am not a member of the NT, I think it is completely wrong and they should have listened to their members. They own an enormous amount of land and I am so disappointed in them.

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Post  littlewid on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:50 pm

I am not a member either but I read about this and was disgusted, I applaude you PPH for your decision to cancel your membership, I wonder how many others will follow suite?

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Post  Laikipia on Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:02 pm

Awful distressing news, I've just heard, although it is not confirmed that we have Btb here locally. Waiting to hear if this is accurate and what will happen. I am distraught.

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Post  whitestarling on Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:10 pm

affraid Thats terrible news Lai, hope its not true

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Post  Laikipia on Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:45 pm

I am highly suspicious WS. Suddenly Btb seems to be spreading all over the UK to places that never had it before.

I am saying no more at the moment but will let you know once the tests have been done.

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Post  littlewid on Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:15 pm

Lai I am so sorry to hear that, I understand how devastating it would be if its confirmed, so I will be praying with all my heart thats its not proved and your badgers will be safe. Thats really disheartening to think it may be possible but lets hope its not true. How can it supposedly spread to parts that have never had btb before, my gut instinct is its a rouse by the government and farmers to kill more badgers. I honestly dont think they will be satisfied until there are no more badgers.

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Post  whitestarling on Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:24 pm

You right Lai that is very suspicous indeed, it beggers belief that, but the way this anti Badger campaign has been conducted, anything's thinkable

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