Re: Marsh Pride Updates

RMorr50912 Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:21 pm

I totally agree Doogs, the lions have to be the hardest, with a few very exceptions, although a certain leopard is really giving me fits for the moment!

Ronnie

**whitestarling** Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:35 pm

Know the feeling Ronnie confused

WS

**whitestarling** Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:22 pm

From Jacksons FB page
Marsh Pride Updates - Page 14 Wa202

WS

**Laikipia** Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:55 am

Thanks WS. I hope they find White Eye.

Lai cheers

**Doogs** Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:23 pm

WS - bit worrying that White Eye hasn't been seen for a wee while Crying or Very sad

RMorr50912 Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:31 pm

I saw this posted on FB and though it is not particularly about the marsh pride it is about lions in the Maasai Mara. Attempts to stop the Maasai from killing lions.

https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.nationalgeographic.com%2Fvideo%2Fnews%2Fanimals-news%2Fkenya-lions-vin%2F&h=DAQGVw4gSAQFIrSn7hGA-8my77SyopJTNZ80O2ntWR7qYnA&enc=AZOAjUn-7pZJ-kvYBG01yOdRwKgH5H4jYMadlWmBIGPQdSy-3oWJNfdEz9lNq6SB8G-KDCXiZZZQpxa6eze7bTnd1X50b_woA6vKj50vvWjvGw

Didn't know how to embed the video on this one but the link should work fine.

Ronnie

**Laikipia** Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:39 pm

Thanks for the link Ronnie. An interesting clip from the Jouberts, let's hope the Maasai lions can be protected.

Lai

**whitestarling** Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:55 pm

Thanks Ronnie. Just watched this, and it needs more conservation programes like this where the Masai people can get, and see the benifit of Lion conservation. There are quite a few similar projects going on like this. I would like to see these groups that are doing this join together, under one umbrella organistion, to have a greater effect, and a bigger voice in Kenya
WS

**Doogs** Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:09 pm

Totally agree WS - we need to help the lions in Kenya before it's too late Crying or Very sad

RMorr50912 Tue May 01, 2012 4:23 am

I agree totally with everyone. I don't understand why it's so hard for them to understand that they need the lions for their own benefit. Kenya certainly gets a lot of their income from the people who go on safari. Maybe the problem is that the locals never get to see the benefits of the tourism industry there. That is the key to stopping the killings. Like they said in the video, they need to see the lions as more valuable alive than the damn cattle!

Ronnie

**Doogs** Tue May 08, 2012 1:51 pm

Report from Paul Kirui on FB :-

"Just to let you all know, Joy the female lioness from the Marsh Pride has turned up with 3 cubs after a few months, suprisingly today the rest of the pride welcomed her to a warthog kill and even helped her chase away some 15 marauding Hyaenas. we hope she stays with them now permanently. Welcome back Joy!"

Marsh Pride Updates - Page 14 768480

**Laikipia** Tue May 08, 2012 2:34 pm

wonderful news. Definitely made me smile reading that.

Thanks Doogs.
Lai

**whitestarling** Tue May 08, 2012 4:18 pm

Thats fantastic news. She's turning into a great Mum, all we need is for White eye to turn up.
WS

**Doogs** Thu May 31, 2012 9:55 am

Update from the Marsh via Peter Rettig on FB:

“After 2 days out here in the Marsh this is a quick update on the Marsh lions. Most of the Marsh lions are accounted for, hence there is still no news on White Eye. She has not been seen for quite some time now, but there is no confirmation of here being gone. With the long grasses here in the Marsh Pride territory and across the Mara it is difficult to locate the lions, so maybe she is out there somewhere. The 4 M’s are looking in great condition, have seen Scarface but he only displayed his sunny side to me so not sure how his left eye is looking. Siena, Bibi and Charm are looking great and the 5 young females are also doing well.

Sadly Rich Smith and Simon Chebon, who are also out and about, reported that the youngest female (daughter of Charm) has sustained some nasty injuries probably from a warthog. Those will hopefully heal quickly. A few hours ago I saw Charm mating with one of the 4 Ms, sadly this most likely means her cub is gone or she has abandoned it. Since July last year not a single cub survived in the Marsh pride, Siena has lost both of her latest cubs in March this year. A sign that things still have not settled in this pride. I also saw the 4 Breakaway/Topi Plains females yesterday looking in great condition. Non signs of Joy and her gang so far”.

Rich Smith, who is a regular poster on both FB and on J&A’s Blog is currently in the Mara with Simon Chebon and with also be meeting up with Peter Rettig so hopefully we can expect some more regular updates.

**Laikipia** Thu May 31, 2012 11:36 am

what an update, I wondered where Rich Smith was. Thanks for that Doogs. Sad to read about all the Marsh Pride cubs but hopefully the pride will settle down and a new dynasty will be born.

I love these updates Marsh Pride Updates - Page 14 71418

Lai Pai

**Doogs** Thu May 31, 2012 1:18 pm

It's his first visit to the Mara Lai and he was very excited - brilliant that he is spending it with Simon and Peter, he'll have a great time with them Marsh Pride Updates - Page 14 71418

**Laikipia** Thu May 31, 2012 4:45 pm

oh that's brilliant news, I missed him on FB but hadn't realised why. He'll be back with some first hand updates which will be great news.

Lai

**whitestarling** Thu May 31, 2012 9:32 pm

Great to hear some upto date news about the Marsh Pride. Rich is really passionate about the Mara, it will be good to hear what he has to say when he gets back, and he could'nt be in better company.
WS

**Doogs** Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:53 pm

A few recent updates fm Governors Camp Collection via FB:-

02/06/12 - We are very sad to announce that as of a couple of days ago, Charm's one month old cub is not to be seen. She has either left it or it has been killed. Charm is now mating with Sikio (one of the Four Muskateers) at Bila Shaka. Lets hope her next litter will be better cared for.

Also on 02/06/12 - Since losing her cub a few days ago, Charm is now mating with Sikio, the Blonde Musketeer. Scar is also mating another young lioness, all a few hundred metres apart by the airstrip!

When asked about the whereabouts of WE on 02/06/12 they replied - Unfortunately White Eye has not been seen for a while. She was last seen looking pregnant and heading in to the Masai reserve area. It is feared she may have been killed after mounting several cattle raids. Her 5 young sub-adults are still about but still hard to identify. Some have rejoined the Marsh pride. We'll keep an eye out!

**Laikipia** Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:19 pm

Thanks for the updates Doogs. If that is true about White Eye then it is very sad news indeed. I don't want to believe it yet though.

Lai

**Doogs** Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:34 pm

I know Lai and I also don't want to believe that she's gone Crying or Very sad

Update fm Governors Camp Collection via FB on 06/06/12:-

Three Muskateers and 4 Marsh Pride females have killed and eaten a baby hippo close to the Musiara Gate where they can now be seen looking very healthy and sleepy!

**Laikipia** Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:26 pm

poor little hippo that's so sad, sometimes I'd rather not know what they are having for breakfast What a Face

but it's good to know they are well fed.

Thanks Doogs.

Lai Pai

**whitestarling** Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:22 pm

Thanks Doogs, I'm still keeping my fingers X for WE, as long as she has'nt been found there;s hope. Sad about the Hippo baby, its the tough part of the wildlife we love
WS

RMorr50912 Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:56 pm

Thanks for the update Doogs. I'm with you WS, still hoping that WE is hiding with cubs, but it's looking worse and worse as the days go by.By the same token though WE is a lioness not to be underestimated!

Ronnie

**Doogs** Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:32 pm

Very true Ronnie, she's one tough cookie White Eye Wink

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