Lioness is being STARVED

Thanks WS, It doesnt make for good reading does it because it still sounds as if it is still all a little bit too late, it doesn't read as if they are trying to make much of a difference. I hope the pressure on them keeps up, has anyone had any replies from anyone they have contacted about the zoo?

littlewid-x-

I did'nt get a reply from the Daily Mail to the email I sent, dont know about anybody else
WS

Me neither WS, thats I why I thought I would ask, if I dont get anything soon I will send another one and also to another paper.

littlewid-x-

Update from Kaz End Bsl Cobb on FB
Just an update for you regarding the Zoos. Things are definitely moving forward and help has been accepted at Alex Zoo.
Here's a summary for you all.
Second meeting with GOVS, in response to the campaigns:
This is my personal documenting, sure, attendances would have their reports about the meeting published too.
Overall meeting with Dr. Alaa Morsy, 31 July 2012 – Cairo Opera House – Hanager coffee shop
Meeting was attended by:
Khaled Elbarky
Hatem Moushir
Dr. Yasser Adel Hanafy Osman
Nardine Botros
Dina Zulfikar
The meeting started 9:00pm lasted till 12:00

Proposals were submitted by each:
Nardine Botros, students of grade 11, submitted proposal for :
Bears enrichment (foraging) as illustrated by professional bears behavior and specialists, this proposal was submitted May 2012, but, they reached nothing, so proposal was submitted again yesterday to GOVS.
Discussion was made about the refusal of Central Zoos Management to the project submitted by Hana El-Safoury and Nardine Botros to clean the Giza Zoo, the Central Zoos claimed they have employees for this and recommended they go to Tanta Zoo, about 2 hrs from Cairo..
All attendances condemn such decision by Central Zoos and supported the projects submitted by Nardine and Hana.
Khaled Elbarky; submitted overall proposals about dealing with problems in Kafr El Sheikh, Fayoum, Alex and Giza Zoo. Most of the issues, in Khaled's words are related to behavior and training of keepers. No iron rod should be used with big cats, cleaning is an important issue, mice problems in the big cats enclosure, inquiry about the Hippos enclosure is still unanswered in Kafr El Sheikh Zoo, monkey held in solitary confinement in a small improper cage….. should be delt with.
Hatem Moushir.; spoke about the unlikely suspicious procedures of management of Central Zoos, the questions and many unlikely things which happened during his visit, accusations about why is he taking photos of plants… flora…etc… then he spoke and explained the conditions of some animals in Giza Zoo, he presented his video as evidence, which shows the positive and not positive side.
Dr. Yasser Adel Hanafy Osman; mentioned that we must reach a middle way, cooperation of Civil Society should be welcomed, awareness and more, he offered the help of specialists form Desert Research Center in evaluating and treating the camels suffering in Alex Zoo.
Dina Zulfikar, submitted also additional requests: no more exotic animals used as photo props, because of zoonotic disease and animals suffering, no more purchase of new animals before fixing the problems of current enclosures in all 7 zoos, adoption program submitted by Shelley Mattocks, awareness and training of keepers should be encouraged, a mechanism should be set for exchanging information and inquiries about conditions in all central zoos, enclosures floors, substrates as per direction of WAZA, PAAZAB should be applied in all zoos. Setting committee formed of civil society and central zoos to reform and cooperate.
Dr. Alaa Morsy mentioned that Central Zoos answered the GOVS about each picture submitted by our campaigns, we (all attendances) asked for making this public.
Dr. Alaa Morsy promised to submit all proposals to GOVS, and to arrange another meeting soon, to follow up.
All attendances made this clear: it is refused to be accused of ruining the reputation of Egypt for publishing such reports about deplorable conditions, we care for improving conditions of captive animals, as we get no answers, we are supported by international campaigns. The world has no boundaries, animal people animal rights people of the world unite in facing any abuse in all over the world.

WS

Stop Egypts Private Zoos!
http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-egypts-private-zoos

WS

Thanks WS - I saw this on FB but didnt round to posting. Signed the petition and shared on FB and Twitter.

Lai

Petition signed WS and looks like we may have to write to some more newspapers to keep the momentum going.
Still not heard from the mail.

littlewid-x-

What a shame, I just checked a few minutes ago and at that point there was only 218 signatures! Hopefully it will get shared more widely.

Ronnie

I wonder if that is because there have been other petitions Ronnie and people think they only need to sign one, so this one is being left behind?
As you say, lets hope more people keep signing this one as well because the more credible petitions there are the better for the animals at the zoos.

littlewid-x-

I think people may be getting confused with National Zoos, and Private Z, and the number of petitions out there
WS

I agree WS. There are several petitions and 7 or so zoos, or is that just public zoos not private zoos? Anyway we need to sign all petitions and circulate via FB and Twitter as much as we can.

Lai

I don't know if you guys had seen this one yet. A lioness being kept in a small cage as an attraction, again, in Egypt.

http://www.occupyforanimals.org/save-the-young-lioness-at-the-tolba-facility-in-abu-rawash-egypt.html

This lioness has a chance. Her name is Masrya and Babette de Jonge has room for her at their sanctuary at Stichting Leeuw. They will take her and see she's well cared for, pending Egyptian approval. I hope they get the approval and get her out of there soon. That's really cruel to keep her in that little cage.

Ronnie

Thanks Ronnie. The petition now has 1436 signatures on it which is disappointing.

That would be wonderful news if Babette de Jonge is able to take the lioness and give her a better life, what a shocking tiny cage to have to exist in, it is quite pityful.

Lai

Thanks for bringing this up Ronnie its disgusting the conditions she's being kept in. Not sure why, but the Change Org petition link only takes me to Change Orgs home page, and I cant see the petition
WS

Andrew McdonaldAnimal Liberation Worldwide
5 August
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CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE A FEW SECONDS TO SIGN AND SHARE THESE 3 IMPORTANT PETITIONS SO THAT WE CAN END THE SUFFERING OF ANIMALS IN EGYPTIAN ZOOS? THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU!!
1- https://www.change.org/petitions/stop-egypts-private-zoos
2- http://www.thepetitionsite.com/786/840/821/rescue-animals-in-eygpt-zoos/
3- http://www.change.org/petitions/egypt-close-down-all-7-governmental-zoos-that-are-nothing-less-than-hell-holes
JOIN MIMI’S WAR THE EVENT:
https://www.facebook.com/events/100335623447840/
WS

Saw that on FB and have made sure all 3 petitions are signed and shared.

Thanks WS.

Lai

I have signed all three WS, I am sure I have signed them before but it let me go ahead anyway. I tried to share on FB but couldn't, maybe it was me doing it wrong, i'm not very good with FB.

littlewid-x-

I've signed all three before as well LW, but if you've done it again, and it registers all the better.
There is news now that the Keepers at Alexzandria Zoo have gone on strike, and its closed, no one can get in to check on the Animals condition, they were starving before so God knows what's happening now.
On Mimi's link
JOIN MIMI’S WAR THE EVENT:
https://www.facebook.com/events/100335623447840/

WS

That is so sad to see, that the cruelty is still going on, and that they are even buying more animals, even though they cant look after or copw with the ones they have. Whoever is selling them to the Egyptian Zoos should be stopped. Also some very enlightened words from the Guy who posted this
WS