Badger Cull Protest

Oh no Littlewid, I never thought you thought that I thought sorry I must have worded that wrong too !!!

I know we all care passionately - I am so angry I am probably typing gibberish

Lai

Phew, as long as I hadn't upset you, I would never intentionally do that to anyone.

This cull just so infuriating

littlewid-x-

Not at all, I think we both got our wires a bit crossed there, this cull is making us all and

Lai

littlewid-x-

Your right Lai, Packham did tweet against the Cull. Loads of people are all complaining on the boards, I'm surprised the National Newspapers have'nt picked up on it yet. Perhaps thats another avenue to to think about, to make the beeb take notice
WS

The Beeb mentioned it on Countryfile last night, missed most of it though, something about the cull in Ireland and had it worked. It will be on Iplayer no doubt.

I am delighted that those with a tongue and the nerve are saying what they think.

Bill Oddie, Simon King, Chris Packham et al and of course Brian May.

Lai

It did show that after a cull in Ireland that TB in cattle reduced, but it could'nt all be put down to the cull. Ireland has invested a lot of money in Bio Security for it's farms, and other preventative measures. They are also working on vaccinating the Badgers, and are testing a bait ball trial, where the bait is buried in the ground at a depth that Badgers like to dig to, but cant be reached by other animals like Dogs, the vaccine works if it is injested. There is alsp the size of the Country, and many other factors to be taken into account, so it cant all be put down to a cull. Now I've just checked on BBC i Player, and the current episode being shown is not the one that was on last night. Strange that it should be a programe about Badger culling, after all the complaints. Coincidence ?
WS

Thanks for that WS and mmmmm coincidence, honestly what is going on? What happened to 'freedom of speech' ?

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Twitter-users-slam-badger-cull-badgermonday-goes/story-19170926-detail/story.html#axzz2VA3xnh65

Lai

Things we can still do ............

http://www.justdosomething.org.uk/

Lai
#canthecarrot

Your right Lai it is disgusting that the BBC is stopping this subject being talked about on Springwatch. I'm glad its gone viral on Twitter, and social sites. Thanks for the links
WS

Noisy but certainly puts the point across, and you can hear David Attenborough.

Lai

Thanks for the link to canthecarrot Lai and also the video. I will check them out tomorrow evening as its getting late now and I don't want to play anything with music as Tiga has gone to sleep but it will wake him up......he doesnt miss a trick on the pc with music and he has been buzzing around all evening so seeing him settled is good. I will check it all out tomorrow though and see if thats a petition I haven't yet signed.

littlewid-x-

URGENT ACTION EMAIL YOUR MP TODAY. YOU MAY HAVE DONE BEFORE, BUT DO IT AGAIN LET THEM KNOW THEIR VOTE WILL BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AT THE NEXT ELECTION
Dear Badger Friends

It’s begun. The barbaric pilot cull of thousands of badgers started on Saturday. [1] But there’s a spark of hope.

Mary Creagh MP has called a vote in parliament on Wednesday. Although not legally binding, it could be our last chance. If we cause a big enough backlash by MPs across all political parties, it might be enough to halt the cull and make sure our badgers are safe.
We’ve only got less than 24 hours to persuade our MPs to vote to stop the cull. MPs from the Conservatives, Lib Dems and Labour have all vowed to vote to stop the cull.

[3] Can you email your MP now to make sure they turn up and vote to stop the cull too?
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/badgers-vote

Every day, up to 70 badgers could die because the government says it’s necessary to stop the increase of TB in cattle. But scientists say that the policy will have “unimpressive results” in reducing TB, and the evidence in support of a cull is shaky. [4]

The last thing the government wants now is for us to ramp up the attention around this vote. If we’re going to stop the cull, thousands of us have to email our MP and persuade them to vote against the cull on Wednesday.

Getting enough of a backlash is a long-shot. But we know that people power works. In the last week alone we managed to force the government to pledge ”never” to introduce a limit on the number of times we’re allowed to visit our GP. [5]

Badgers have been part of the British countryside for generations,and we want to protect them for generations to come. If we’re going to stop the cull, numbers count. The more of us that email our MP, the more chance we have of persuading the government that they should change their minds.

We’ve got less than 24 hours. Email your MP now:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/badgers-vote

WS


[b]

WS been and gone and done it yesterday, via 38 Degrees and another group too, our MP will be sick to death of me soon but I would doubt he will attend the debate.

Let's be positive on this and hope the Government finally sees sense.

Lai

I know Lai, but at least we can let them know their vote will be taken into account at the next election
WS

WS - you are so right!

Lai

MPs vote in favour of badger cull

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/mps-vote-in-favour-of-badger-cull-8646261.html

Sickening and deeply upsetting. I am sure this will not be the end.

Lai

I hope it's not the end Lai and its really tragic. I signed the petition WS that you put up today but sadly the vote was taking place today.
Lets hope the fight for the Badgers continues.

littlewid-x-

If you want to know how your MP voted in the badger debate yesterday, (and I think it was disgusting they didn't make this a free vote but a 3 line whip which means tow the party line or else).

Three-line whips

Defying a three-line whip is very serious, and has occasionally resulted in the whip being withdrawn from an MP or Lord. This means that the Member is effectively expelled from their party (but keeps their seat) and must sit as an independent until the whip is restored.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmhansrd/cm130605/debtext/130605-0003.htm

you can also read the whole debate which is somewhat long

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmhansrd/cm130605/debtext/130605-0001.htm

I have no idea what is going to happen now but let's not give up the fight.

Lai

Thanks for the Links Lai. I will check them out later.
3 line whips, it just goes to show the bullying tactics the Government has used to get this through. I felt really sorry for MP Tracey Crouch, who voted against the cull last time, and was left in no doubt about what she had done with some Tory colleagues had barely speaking to her since, and for her she voted against it this time. I doubt that the vast majority of those MP's that voted for the cull, understand the scientific evidence that has been presented or in many cases have even read it. They are to interested in their own political careers, to bother about animal welfare. To me it speaks volumes that they put a 3 line whip on. If the evidence to support the cull was that overwhelming, they would'nt have needed to do it.
No we wont stop suppoting the Badgers

WS

Well said WS and .

I found this petition whilst 'clicking'

http://theanimalrescuesite.greatergood.com/clickToGive/ars/petition/UKBadgers

Always worth signing another petition.

Lai

Worth doing everytime. We've just got to keep ering the Government
WS

Thanks for the links Lai, I will read them later as they are long.

I have signed the new petition you put up though, as you say there is no harm in signing as many petitions as possible, we have to keep doing something.

WS you really did say that well. It's disgusting they are bullied into towing the line but then again if they do it just goes to show how shallow they are. My rule is always, if you believe in it then stand up for it and have your own mind and freedom of speech never be intimidated by others because thats what they are counting on.

Love our and speak out for them.

littlewid-x-

LW, and at the end of the day, it's the public that keep them in a job, not the whips or ministers.
Love the new avatar Lai, very appropiate
WS

Thanks WS. I am so incensed by this whole thing and more and more so the more I think about it. We vote them in and they totally disregard us. 3 line whips are an unacceptable way to get your party to tow the party line on an issue that should clearly have been a free vote.

The heat is on and we shall never give in. They should remember we have the means to vote them in and the means to vote them out ....

Rant over

Lai